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by Mike Wall,
Senior Writer
Date: 23 January 2013 Time: 07:00 AM ET
麦克&华尔,资深作家
日期:日 时间:美东时间上午07:00
The next 50 years ofspaceflight will carry many challenges and surprises for explorers hoping toextend their reach into the cosmos. But it will also likely hold untappedriches for space science and spinoff technology that could, one day, catapulthuman and robotic explores beyond our own solar system and outward to otherstars.
CREDIT:NASA/Glenn Research Center
未来50年的太空飞行将为探险家带来许多挑战和惊喜有希望扩展他们的足迹到宇宙空间。但它也将持有尚未开发的太空科学财富和剥离技术的可能,有一天,弹射人类和机器人探索我们太阳系之外并向外航行到其他恒星。
来源:美国宇航局/格伦研究中心
Exploiting the many resources of our solarsystem may enable humanity to venture beyond its confines for the first time,and blaze a trail to other stars.
开发许多太阳系的资源也许能够使人类首次冒险走出其活动范围之外,并开辟一条去往其他恒星的道路。
Building a spaceship that can travel to otherstar systems on human timescales & over the course of mere decades & will be achallenging and expensive proposition, with costs likely running into thehundreds of billions of dollars. But the economic and technological hurdleswon't be so steep if our species has begun tapping the vast riches locked up inasteroids and other bodies beyond Earth orbit, advocates say.
建造一艘在人类时间尺度(在短短几十年中)上可以航行到其他恒星系统的宇宙飞船将会是一个具有挑战性而且昂贵的命题,运行成本可达数千亿美元。但是如果我们物种已经开始开发被锁在小行星和地球轨道外的其他天体的巨量财富,经济和技术障碍就不会那么陡峭,拥护者称。
&A solar-system-wide economy couldkickstart research and development of the technologies that will allow us toengage in interstellar flight,& said Richard Obousy, president of IcarusInterstellar, a nonprofit group devoted to pursuing interstellar spaceflight.
&一个泛太阳系的经济可以启动技术的研究和开发,将允许我们从事于星际飞行,&致力于追求星际飞行的非营利组织&伊卡洛斯星际&的总裁理查德&奥博赛说。
Light-yearsaway
数光年以外
Interstellar flight is so daunting because ofthe vast distances separating stars. The extrasolar system closest to us, forexample, is the three-star Alpha Centauri, which lies about 4.3 light-yearsaway, or more than 25 trillion miles (40 trillion kilometers).
星际飞行十分艰巨,因为恒星相距遥远。例如,距离我们最近的太阳系外星系是三星系统的半人马座阿尔法星,位于约4.3光年外,或超过25万亿英里(40万亿公里)。
Thefarthest-flung spacecraft ever launched from Earth is NASA's Voyager 1 probe,which has covered about 11.3 billion miles (18.2 billion km) since blasting offin 1977. But it would take Voyager 1 roughly 70,000 more years to reach AlphaCentauri, and its newly discovered Earth-size planet, if the probe were headedtoward that particular system (which it isn't).
曾经从地球上发射的飞得最远的航天器是美国宇航局的&旅行者&1号探测器,自从1977年发射升空以来,它航行了约113亿英里(182亿公里)。但&旅行者&1号要花大约70000年的时间才能到达半人马座阿尔法星,如果探测器是朝向这个特定星系,它会发现新的地球大小的行星(其实不然)。
Sotraditional chemical-propulsion technology, such as that used by Voyager 1 andother spacecraft plying the solar system today, is just not going to cut it forinterstellar flight.
所以传统的化学推进技术,比如旅行者1号和今天通过太阳系的其他航天器,对星际飞行来说将不会仅仅是削减它。
&We need to start looking at alternativesif we're ever going to bring into reality some of the stuff that we've beendreaming about and that makes up a staple of science fiction & how to explorethese new worlds beyond the solar system,& Obousy .
&如果我们想要使一些我们一直在梦想中的东西和科幻小说的常见场景&&如何探索这些新的太阳系以外的世界成为现实,那么我们需要开始寻找替代品,&奥博赛告诉说。
This illustration depicts Deep SpaceIndustries' Harvestor class spacecraft for asteroid mining.
CREDIT: Deep SpaceIndustries
这幅图描绘了&深层太空产业&用于小行星采矿的采矿类飞船。
来源:深层太空产业
Possible alternatives include harnessingthe power of nuclear fusion or matter-antimatter reactions. Or a probe couldcruise through space like a boat through the ocean, propelled by super-focusedlight beamed from the environs of Earth onto a gigantic sail.
可能的选择包括利用核聚变或物质-反物质反应的力量。或一个探测器可以巡航太空就像是一艘船穿过海洋,由来自地球附近聚焦的超级光束到一面巨大的帆上推进。
Suchapproaches could accelerate a spacecraft to some appreciable fraction of thespeed of light. But engineers may even be able to achieve faster-than-lighttravel by manipulating the fabric of space-time, creating a long-sought&warp drive.&
这种方法可以加速宇宙飞船达到某种可观的部分光速。但工程师们甚至可以通过操作时空结构创建一个长期寻求的&翘曲航行&实现超光速旅行。
Researchers had thought that such a warp drivewould require a power source with the minimum mass-energy of the planetJupiter. But recent calculations by Harold &Sonny& White, of NASA'sJohnson Space Center in Houston, suggest that some design tweaks could bringthat figure down to the mass-energy of a spacecraft like Voyager 1, whichweighed 1,800 pounds (815 kilograms) at launch.
研究人员曾认为,这样一个翘曲航行需要一个最小为木星的质量-能量的力量源。但是最近通过美国宇航局位于休斯顿的约翰逊空间中心的哈罗德&&桑尼&&怀特的计算,表明改进一些设计可以使这一数字下降到一艘像旅行者1号的飞船的质量-能量,也就是说发射重量为1800磅(815公斤)。
&I might have moved this idea fromimpractical to plausible,& White, who is also an Icarus Interstellar teammember, . He and his colleagues are now building a small tabletopexperiment as a first-step &existence proof& of the idea.
&我也许把这个想法从不切实际变得似是而非,&同为&伊卡洛斯星际&团队成员的怀特告诉说。他和他的同事正在构建一个小型桌面实验作为第一步该想法&存在的证据&。
Asolar system economy
一个太阳系经济
Noneof these advanced propulsion technologies are close to flight ready, so anyeffort to build an interstellar spacecraft will require a lot of research anddevelopment work.
没有这些先进的推进技术接近飞行准备,因此任何建造一艘星际飞船的努力将需要大量的研究和开发工作。
Thecosts will thus be quite high. While stressing the difficulty of estimating potentialprice tags at this early stage, Obousy ventured that an unmanned interstellarprobe might cost several times more than the $100 billion International SpaceStation. And a crewed vehicle could top $1 trillion.
这个成本将是非常高昂的,因此同时强调了在早期阶段评估潜在的价格标签的困难,奥博赛冒着一个无人星际探测器可能会花费超过价值1000亿美元的国际空间站数倍成本的风险。并且一枚载人运载火箭可能花费超过1万亿美元。
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Those numbers might be off-putting to manygovernments, especially in these tough fiscal times. But tapping the riches ofthe solar system could help change things, Obousy said.
这些数字可能会不利于许多政府,特别是在这些艰难的财政时代。但利用太阳系的财富可以帮助改变这一切,奥博赛说。
Asteroid mining is a good example. Scientistshave estimated that a single near-Earth asteroid, the 1.5-mile-wide (2.5 km)Amun 3554, contains $20 trillion worth of platinum and other metals.
小行星采矿是一个很好的榜样。科学家估计一颗单独的近地小行星,1.5英里(2.5公里)宽的&阿蒙&3554,包含价值20万亿美元的铂和其他金属。
Suchfigures have enticed two separate companies, Planetary Resources and Deep SpaceIndustries, Inc., to get into the asteroid-mining business within the last ninemonths. Both firms plan to extract from asteroids not only metals but alsowater, which can be split into its constituent hydrogen and oxygen & the chiefcomponents of rocket fuel.
这些数据已吸引两家独立的公司,&行星资源&和&深层太空产业&公司,在过去九个月内进军小行星采矿业务。两家公司都计划从小行星不仅提取金属还提取水,水可以裂解成它的组成成分氢气和氧气&&火箭燃料的首选。
This illustration depicts Deep SpaceIndustries' Fuel Processor class spacecraft for asteroid mining.
CREDIT: Deep Space Industries
这幅图描绘了&深层太空产业&用于小行星采矿的燃料加工类飞船。
来源:深层太空产业
If all goes according to plan, thecompanies' work could lead to the establishment of an in-space manufacturingindustry that builds habitats, satellites and other spacecraft away from ourplanet. Asteroid mining could also help set up off-Earth &gasstations& that allow traditionally fueled craft to top up their tankscheaply and efficiently.
如果一切按计划进行,该公司的工作可能引领一个建造远离我们的星球的栖息地、卫星和其他航天器的太空制造行业的确立。小行星采矿也可以帮助建立地球外的&加油站&,允许传统燃料的飞船便宜高效地加满他们的油箱。
These developments would help humanityextend its reach throughout the solar system, a necessary step along the pathto interstellar flight, experts say.
专家认为这些进展将帮助人类扩展到整个太阳系,这是顺着星际飞行的途径的一个必要的步骤。
&I think before we ever reallyundertake sending something to another star, we will probably have to bemasters of our own solar system,& Les Johnson, deputy manager of theAdvanced Concepts Office at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville,Ala. (and also an accomplished science-fiction writer), .
&我认为在我们真的保证能够发送某些东西到另一颗恒星之前,我们可能需要征服我们自己的太阳系,&位于阿拉巴马州的美国宇航局马歇尔太空飞行中心的高级概念办公室的副主任莱斯&约翰逊(还是一位成功的科幻作家)告诉说。
Obousy voiced similar sentiments, pointingout the economic importance of such a big footprint.
奥博赛也表达了类似的观点,指出这么大的覆盖区域的经济的重要性。
&If we can become a civilization thathas vast resources at its disposal & orders of magnitude more than we havetoday, as a product of space exploration, space mining and thesolar-system-wide economy & then we may reach a stage where an interstellarmission doesn't actually cost us that much in the bigger scheme of the grossdomestic product of the solar system,& he said.
&如果我们能成为一个有巨大的资源可供支配的文明&&数量级比我们今天拥有的多很多,作为一个太空探索、太空采矿和泛太阳系经济的产物,接下来我们可能会达到一个实际上并不花费我们太多在更大的太阳系GDP方案中的星际任务的阶段,&他说。
Flyingto another star by 2100
到2100年飞到另一颗恒星
Icarus Interstellar aims to help humanityachieve interstellar flight by the year 2100. Obousy said he believes that thiscan indeed happen, despite the economic and technological hurdles that must beovercome.
&伊卡洛斯星际&旨在帮助人类到2100年实现星际飞行。奥博赛说他相信这确实会发生,尽管有经济和技术障碍需要被克服。
One reason for optimism is the ongoingexoplanet revolution, which has shown that our Milky Way galaxy is teeming withplanets. Researchers have confirmed more than 800 worlds beyond our solarsystem, and scientists estimate that billions more are out there.
一个乐观的理由是正在进行的系外行星革命,这表明我们的银河系充满了行星。研究人员已经证实了在我们的太阳系外有超过800个世界,并且科学家估计有上亿颗行星在那里。
Astronomers have confirmed aplanet in the Alpha Centauri system and detected five potential worlds circlingthe star Tau Ceti, just 11.9 light-years away. That includes two that might bein the star's habitable zone, the range of distances from a star in whichliquid water could exist on the world's surface.
天文学家已经证实行星在半人马座阿尔法星系有一颗行星,并检测到五个围绕鲸鱼座&星运行的潜在的世界,仅仅在11.9光年外。这当中包括的两个可能位于恒星的宜居区内,即距恒星距离确保液态水存在于该世界的表面的范围。
The discovery of the first true &alienEarth,& a planet the size of our own in its star's habitable zone, couldhelp build a groundswell of public support for interstellar spaceflight, Obousysaid. Our species might want to examine such a world up close for any signs oflife. The detection of electronic signals from an intelligent aliencivilization could have a similar galvanizing effect.
第一个真正的&外星人的地球&(一颗在其恒星的宜居区内且大小和我们的地球差不多的行星)的发现, 可以帮助建立一个关于星际飞行的高涨的公众支持,奥博赛说。我们的物种可能想要检验如此接近的世界的任何生命的迹象。探测来自一个智慧外星文明的电子信号可能会有一个类似刺激的效果。
Overall, Obousy thinks humanity has a goodshot of launching its first interstellar mission by the end of the century. Asan example of our species' potential, he points to how quickly air travelbecame routine after the Wright brothers' ramshackle first flight in 1903.
总的来说,奥博赛认为到本世纪末人类就会具有一个良好的发射手段来执行第一次星际任务。作为一个我们人类的潜力例子,他指出在莱特兄弟在1903年进行的摇摇欲坠的首飞之后,航空旅行是如何迅速成为常态的。
&I think a lot of people tend tooverestimate what we can accomplish in the short term, in the next five to 10years,& he said. &But they also vastly underestimate what we canaccomplish in the long term, decades or a century from now.&
&我认为很多人倾向于高估我们在短期内(在未来的5到10年)可以完成的事情,&他说。&但他们也大大低估我们从长远来看(几十年或从现在开始一个世纪)可以完成的事情。&
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Aaron Labertew & Top Commenter & UnitedStates Marine Corps
Heck we spent a couple trillion on the warsin Iraq and Afghanistan. A trillion to travel to a new star doesn't seem like abad deal to me, but then not everyone is as forward thinking :-)
Reply & 2 &like& 22 hoursago
见鬼,我们在伊拉克和阿富汗战争上花了几万亿。对我来说花1万亿前往一个新的恒星旅行似乎并不像一个糟糕的协议,但不是每个人都有超前思维:-)
William Scott White & Kent State University College of PodiatricMedicine
certainly a more worthy effort than most the places our money goes
Reply & 7 &like&22 hours ago
当然有一个更值得我们努力花钱去的地方
Donald Watson & UNI
Dibs on Amun 3554.
Reply &like& 18 hours ago
花点零钱在&阿蒙&3554上。
johnharborfalls (signed in using yahoo)
Donald Watson: Go there and claim it!
Reply &like & 17 hours ago
Donald Watson:去到那里并盛索它的主权!
Jeremy Cottam & Top Commenter & London,United Kingdom
Let us focus on getting the asteroid mininggoing and leave the fantasy of interstellar flight to the comic books.
Reply & 2 &like& 21 hoursago
让我们专注于去小行星采矿,把星际飞行的幻想留在漫画书。
Aaron Labertew & Top Commenter & United States Marine Corps
I just find it funny that asteroid mining is perfectly doable, butinterstellar flight is somehow still considered science fiction to you. We canaccomplish anything we put our minds to. Mining asteroids will enable largerresearch facilities to be built in space, which means MORE research being donein zero G, micro grav, or simulated gravity environments. Who knows what we'llfigure out at that point?
Reply & 3 &like& 21 hours ago
我只是觉得好笑,小行星采矿是完全可行的,但是对于你来说星际飞行是无论如何仍然被认为是科幻小说。我们能够完成我们的任何想法。开采小行星将能够在太空建立更大的研究设施,这意味着在零重力、微重力或模拟重力环境下进行更多的研究。谁知道我们在那里会发现什么?
Jeremy Cottam & Top Commenter & London, United Kingdom
Yes I am sure we can do interstellar travel,dont get me wrong Iwould LOVE for it to happen! But where does the money and technology come fromif we don't have a thriving space industry to drive it along?
Reply & 2 &like& 19 hours ago
是的,我确信我们可以做星际旅行,不要误会我,我非常喜欢它能发生!但是如果我们没有一个蓬勃发展的航天工业来一起驱动它,钱和技术从哪里来呢?
Mike Humphrey & Top Commenter
Aaron Labertew Mining asteroids doesn't require physics that hasn'tbeen discovered yet.
Reply & 1 &like& 19 hours ago
Aaron Labertew开采小行星不需要尚未发现的物理法则。
Aaron Labertew & Top Commenter & United States Marine Corps
Right, that's kind of the whole point of the article though. BecauseDeep Space Industries is going to be starting that thriving space economy,we'll be able to fund research and development on interstellar travel.
@ Mike - I never mentioned FTL, I merely stated interstellar travel.And we can't know if there is a way to bend the rules of physics unless we try:-)
Reply &like& 18 hours ago
对, 不过那是文章的整体观点。因为&深层太空产业&将开始兴起太空经济,我们将能够筹集在星际旅行上的研究和发展基金。
@Mike,我从未提起超光速,我只是陈述星际旅行。而且我们不知道是否有一种方法可以扭曲物理法则,除非我们尝试一下:-)
Gary Moretti & Top Commenter & Most Of Us Went
If faster than light travel is considered comic book fodder alwaysviewed impossible with no desire for any researchers to even ponder ways to doit...even if it is at some point within our technology possible, nobody wouldbe willing to even consider creating the technology in the first place...ourcivilization is filled with real examples of &Impossible&technology...it would take up all of the space within my Impossible Computer tolist and describe all of them.
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如果速度比光传播得快被认为是漫画书素材一直认为不可能不被任何研究人员渴望,甚至不想思考方法来实现它&即使其某些观点在我们可能的技术中,没有人愿意首先考虑创造技术&&我们的文明充满了&不可能的&技术的真实例子&它会占据所有我们的不可能的空间之内,计算机也会名列其中,并被描述为不可能的。
Mike Humphrey & Top Commenter
&Overall, Obousy thinks humanity has agood shot of launching its first interstellar mission by the end of thecentury. As an example of our species' potential, he points to how quickly airtravel became routine after the Wright brothers' ramshackle first flight in1903.&
Modern aircraft are completely analogous tothe Wright's first aircraft. Internal combustion engines burning petrochemicals and oxygen from the air, spin airscrews, which create thrust thatpropels the craft forward, gaining lift from the shape and angle of attack ofthe wings moving through the air, and stabilizing itself via secondarysurfaces.
No such analog exists for an interstellarcraft. In terms of interstellar flight, we're still a LONG way from 1903, andit's impossible to say how far.
Nothing against mining asteroids andcontinuing to explore and populate THIS system, mind you. That's all great.But, while the expertise in building trillion dollar space structures would nodoubt come in handy in constructing an interstellar craft, it's not the majorthing holding us back from doing it.
Reply & 2 &like& 21 hoursago
&总的来说,奥博赛认为到本世纪末人类就会具有一个良好的发射手段来执行第一次星际任务。作为一个我们人类的潜力例子,他指出在莱特兄弟在1903年进行的摇摇欲坠的首飞之后,航空旅行是如何迅速成为常态的。&
现代飞机完全类似于莱特的首架飞机。内燃机燃烧石油的化学物质和来空气中的氧,螺旋桨旋转产生推力推动飞机前进,从机翼的形状和迎角获得升力在空中移动,并通过第二表面稳定机体本身。
星际飞船没有这样类似的存在。在星际飞行方面,我们从1903年开始还有很长的路要走,而且不可能说出能走多远。
提醒你没有这种针对开采小行星和继续探索以及移民的系统。所有的一切都很伟大。但是,虽然专业知识在建造上万亿美元的太空建设上将毫无疑问建造一艘星际飞船上派得上用场,没有掌握的主要因素会制约我们这样做。
Aaron Labertew & Top Commenter & United States Marine Corps
Right, the main thing holding us back is the research anddevelopment we need to do, As the craft is going to be operating in microgravor zero G environments, the research for the drive systems probably need to becarried out in similar environments.
So, asteroid mining will enable us to build larger, more complexresearch facilities, which could lead to perfection of a method forinterstellar flight.
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说的对, 制约我们的最主要的因素是我们需要做的研究和开发,当飞船将在微重力或零重力环境中操作时, 驱动系统的研究可能需要在类似的环境中进行。
所以,小行星采矿将使我们能够建立更大、更复杂的研究设施,可能带来一种完美的星际飞行方法。
Neil Farbstein & Top Commenter & President at VulvoxNanobiotechnology Corporation
What's the major thing holding back space exploration?
Reply &like& 19 hours ago
有什么主要的因素阻碍太空探索?
Mike Humphrey & Top Commenter
Aaron Labertew That's just pure speculation. Maybe there IS no suchthing as FTL. And if there is, who's to say you can't develop it on a desktop?We just don't know. Advances in physics theory can't be brought on by royaldecree. All the king's horses... etc.
But yes, FTL isn't much use to you if you can't even build aself-sustaining space station. So I'm all for getting to work on THAT. But, asusual, this article is way off in the picture it paints.
And besides, once you can live in space for indefinite periods oftime, who needs other Earths anyway? Planets are dangerous places. Volcanoes,earthquakes, hard to move out of the way of incoming comets and gamma raybursts. Habitations in stellar orbit is probably where our near future lies.Right here in the good old Sol system.
Reply & 2 &like& 19 hours ago
Aaron Labertew,这只是纯粹的推测。也许超光速是不存在的。如果有,谁告诉你不能在桌面上开发它呢?我们只是不知道。物理学理论的进步不能由皇家法令比如国王的马等带来。
但是,是的, 如果你甚至不能构建一个自给自足的空间站,超光速对你就没有多大用处。所以我所有的工作都是关于这个。但是,像往常一样,这篇文章是离它在图中所画的还很远。
此外,一旦你可以在任何时候住在太空中,谁还需要另一个地球呢?行星是个危险的地方。火山、地震、努力搬离来袭的彗星路径以及伽马射线暴。在恒星轨道中的住处在不远的将来可能找到。就在这古老的太阳系里。
Don Ciers & Works at Self Employed Author
Politicians perpetuating the welfare state, obsolete and repressivetaxation of income, that throttles economic activity and innovation. The Hollywoodinspired and driven notion of finding ET are like just two of the albatrosseswe have to bear.
Reply &like& 18 hours ago
政客永存于这个福利国家,过时的且压抑的收入税制约了经济活动和创新。好莱坞寻找外星人的灵感和驱动观念就像只有我们必须承担的两个沉重负担。
Aaron Labertew & Top Commenter & United States Marine Corps
Mike Humphrey - I never said FTL, I said interstellar travel, thoughFTL would be awesome! :) Anyways, living on a space station != living on aplanet. I can't speak to future generations, but I know I'd much rather make mypermanent settlement on exo-terra firma so to speak. I would hypothesize thatthe human psyche would long for nice big skies, fresh air, and lots and lots ofnew lands to explore.
That being said, yeah, we have PLENTY in our own solar system tokeep us busy for the next few hundred years, no doubt about it.
Reply &like& 18 hours ago
Mike Humphrey,我从来没有说过超光速,我说的是星际旅行,尽管超光速会很棒! :)无论如何,生活在一个空间站!等于生活在一颗行星上。我不会讲给后代,但我知道我宁愿让我的永久定居在被称为地球之外的地方。我将假设,人的心理会渴望美好的巨大的天空、清新的空气和很多很多的新大陆需要去探索。
那就是说,是的, 在接下来的几百年在我们自己的太阳系里我们有很多事情来保持我们的忙碌,毫无疑问。
Ryan Lucien &Top Commenter
I agree with the overall theme, We can't get there from here unlesswe build up a Solar System economy instead of just an Earth economy. We can'treally live on space stations (they will always be dependent on resupply) Wecan work and play on space stations. Only Planets offer self-sustained livingmaking them the end point destinations.
Although advances don't happen by decree, history shows us thatgiven enough brains money and time, we can solve many of our greatest ills.
Reply &like& 17 hours ago
我同意整个主题,我们无法从这里到达那里,除非我们建立一个太阳系经济,而不是只是一个地球经济。我们不能真的住在空间站(它们将永远依赖补给)我们可以在空间站工作和玩乐。只有行星可以提供自给自足的生活使他们能够到达终点的目的地。
虽然进步不会通过颁布法令发生,但是历史告诉我们,给予足够的脑力、钱和时间,我们可以解决很多我们最大的弊病。
Michael C. Johnson & Top Commenter &Lawrenceville, New Jersey
As much as I hate to say it, the maindriver that will push us out into space, is how much money can be made from it.Ventures like asteroid mining, mining on the moon, zero-G manufacturing, spacebased shipyards, etc. are what is going to get us out into space once and forall. Agencies like NASA and other governmental space agencies simply do nothave the $$$ to make this happen, probably not ever. That is not their reasonfor being and politics, graft, etc. will keep them from filling such a role. Inthe future, a player like NASA will have a limited role at best in space. Infact, I'm not real sure what role NASA would play say 20 - 30 years from nowand going forward when there will be so many commercial players in the spaceexploration/exploitation game. Perhaps NASA can be the ones who are the pointof the spear in our exploration of space. But, if we are going to leave ourchildren a true space faring society, we will need to look to the privatesector to make that happen.
Reply & 8 &like& 20 hoursago
虽然我讨厌这样说,但将推动我们进入太空的主要的驱动器,要多少钱可以制造它。像小行星采矿、在月球上采矿、零重力下制造、太空船坞基地等风险将会让我们进入太空一劳永逸。像NASA和其他政府太空局这样的机构根本没有钱让这样的事情发生的,可能不会是永远。这不是他们人种和政治、贪污等让他们保持这样一个角色的原因。在未来,一个像美国宇航局这样的选手将在太空扮演一个有限的最佳的角色。事实上,我并不真的肯定美国宇航局从现在开始20 - 30年会扮演什么角色,而今后将有非常多的商业选手在太空探索/开发领域崭露头角。也许美国宇航局可以成为其中一个将矛头对准我们太空探索的选手。但是,如果我们将给我们的孩子留下一个真正的太空经营社会,我们需要依靠私营部门使其发生。
Don Ciers & Works at Self Employed Author
I get the feeling you have read the prologue of my novel.
Reply &like& 18 hours ago
我感觉你阅读了我的小说的序言。
Gary Moretti & Top Commenter & Most Of Us Went
What is the problem with money?....What is the problem with makingmoney....All earth based colonial efforts were money related, why should spacebe different....How would it become possible to cause it to become different....ANo Money System would of course have to find example of &Working& onEarth before it works in space...and no Don money will never be replaced bysome social &Glow& based on age or need or intelligence...perhaps2000 years from now it will but show me some example how it works.
Reply &like& 16 hours ago
钱的问题是什么呢? .... 赚钱的问题是什么....所有基于地球的殖民努力都与钱相关,为什么在太空中就不同了呢....如何做到导致它变得不同的可能.... 在太空中工作之前,一个没有钱系统当然必须找到地球上 &工作&的例子&&而且没有钱先生就不会被一些基于年龄或需要或智力的社会&光环&所取代吗&&也许从现在开始2000年后它会发生但给我一些说明它是如何工作的例子。
Jerry Cobbs & Top Commenter & Huntsville, Alabama
I agree. I'm as big a NASA fan as they come, but the NASA model ison the verge of unsustainability. Space travel has progressed to the pointwhere the economics must make sense for many large, long-range projects. Asmuch as I'd like to see it, we just don't have the political will to spend whatit will take to apply the Apollo model to the rest of the solar system. Exceptfor pathfinding and pure research, space from this point on in our history ispretty much going to be a pay-as-you-go proposition.
Reply & 1 &like& 14 hours ago
我同意。我从前是一个美国宇航局的大粉丝,但美国宇航局模式处于不可持续的边缘。太空旅行已经进展到一定地步,经济学必须对于许多大型、远程计划有意义。我想尽可能多地看到它,我们只是没有政治意愿应用阿波罗模式向太阳系的其他星球进发。除了探险和纯粹的研究、在我们的历史上从这点上来说太空几乎将成为一个花费多少就走多远的议题。
Tony Cable & Top Commenter
Nasa can be like Discovery Channel - just go there and study thestuff that doesn't make money, but is of great interest to the rest of us.
Reply & 1 &like& 14 hours ago
美国宇航局可以像探索频道那样&&只是去到那里并且研究不赚钱的但是引起我们其余的人极大兴趣的东西。
Jerry Cobbs & Top Commenter & Huntsville, Alabama
That is exactly what NASA should be doing, and if the politicianswill allow it and give the commercial space industry a very modest boost to getthem started, that is exactly what we could have.
Reply &like& 12 hours ago
这正是美国宇航局应该做的,如果政客们会允许这样做,并给与商业太空产业非常温和的推动来启动他们,这恰好是我们可以有的。
Jan Ivar Halkj&r & Top Commenter & Customer Service/Sales at Tess
NASA in 30 years? Pointing the way and the companies are making theway.
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美国宇航局在30年(?)里指明了道路,而这些公司正在实现这些道路。
Don Ciers & Works at Self Employed Author
Let's take thingestablish a trans-planetary industrial zone among our Near Earth Asteroids,then permanent stations and establish territories we can effectively manage. Wecan overcome propulsion and navigation challenges over time and reach our outersystem planets.
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Reply & 3 &like& 20 hoursago
让我们做事情一步一个脚印; 在近地小行星中建立一个贯穿行星的工业区,然后建立我们可以有效地管理的永久站点和地区。久而久之我们可以克服推进和导航的挑战并到达我们星系的外部行星。
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Aaron Labertew & Top Commenter & United States Marine Corps
Yeah, that's pretty much what the article is saying. But justbecause we're doing things one step at a time doesn't mean we can't think aboutthe next step or the step after that right now.
Reply & 2 &like& 20 hours ago
是的, 文章说的差不多就是这样。但仅仅因为我们做事一步一个脚印并不意味着我们不能想想下一步或今后的步骤。
Neil Farbstein & Top Commenter & Presidentat Vulvox Nanobiotechnology Corporation
Very exciting prospects, Iwant to get involved in space exploration. Vulvox Nanobiotechnology Corporationhas reports on laser fusion technology that can be adapted to power star ships,the worlds lightest toughest strongest materials for constructing space craftand a kinetic impact fusion rocket engine that can also hit asteroids withkinetic impact armatures to change their orbits away from Earth. We also havepictures on our website of our novel carbon nanotube adhesive that can be usedto reversibly and repeatedly hold weightless astronauts to the walls of thespace station. and Contact Neil Farbstein at .
Reply & 1 &like& 19 hoursago
非常令人兴奋的前景,我想参与太空探索。Vulvox纳米
生物公司报道的激光核聚变技术,可以适应驱动星际飞船,世界上最轻最强大的构造太空飞船的材料和一个动力为聚变火箭发动机,同时也可以以动力影响电枢冲击小行星改变它们的轨道远离地球。我们也在我们的网站上张贴我们新奇的碳纳米管胶水的照片,可用于可逆地、反复地保持失重宇航员在空间站的墙壁上。通过联系尼尔&法布斯坦因 。
Jeffery Keown & Implementation Specialistat A local software concern
I want to go. Where do I sign?
Reply & 3 &like& 19 hoursago
我想去。我在哪儿签字呀?
John Gilbert & Top Commenter
Before we do anything we must figure outhow to recreate gravity otherwise our bodies will become jelly. Astronauts haveirregular bowel movements due to the weightlessness of space. A spinningcylinder won't do it... Recreating gravity will me a major step forward.Support CERN!
Reply & 5 &like& 19 hoursago
我们做任何事情之前,我们必须弄清楚如何重新创造重力否则我们的身体会变成果冻。宇航员有不规则排便是由于太空的失重。一个旋转圆筒不会解决它&重新创造重力将使我前进了一大步。来自欧洲核子研究中心的支持!
Mike Humphrey & Top Commenter
A spinning cylinder DOES do it. Next problem please?
Reply & 2 &like& 19 hours ago
一个旋转圆筒就能解决它。下一个问题好吗?
Evan Welsh & Top Commenter & Orange Park, Florida
Actually only in theory. How large, how long and how often can noteven be determined until one is made for research. We yet determined if gravityis the cause of other problems with the detrition of the human body either.
Reply & 2 &like& 19 hours ago
实际上只有在理论中是这样。甚至无法确定需要多大、多长和多久直到通过研究制造一个出来。我们还未确定是否重力是其他人体损耗问题的原因。
Julien Fournier & Top Commenter & Technical Artist at Sarbakan GameStudio
Well, mining for rare-earth is a good motivation to put effort inthese researches....
Reply & 2 &like& 18 hours ago
好吧, 对于在这些研究上付出努力,开采稀土是一个很好的动机....
Tony Cable & Top Commenter
If we figure out a way to store enough energy (nuclear fusion), thenwe could accelerate constantly at 9.8 m/s^2 (1g) and then reverse the machineand decelerate at -9.8 m/s^2 (-1g). We already know how to do this, just howfar of a trip do we need to make and how much fuel do we need to store?
Reply &like& 14hours ago
如果我们找到一个方法来储存足够的能量(核聚变),那么我们可以以9.8米/秒^ 2(1 g)不断加速,然后倒转机器并以-9.8米/秒^ 2(1 g)减速。我们已经知道如何做到这一点,只要知道我们需要的旅行多远就可以我们需要存储多少燃料?
David Green & University of Surrey
Why won't a slowly spinning cylinder work?
Reply &like& 13 hours ago
为什么不会是一个缓慢旋转的圆筒在工作?
Jan Ivar Halkj&r & Top Commenter & Customer Service/Sales at Tess
Mike. That only simulates gravity. Large and bulky. But it will duthe job. In time we will find the &graviton& and be able to producegravitygeneators and SciFi becomes reality :)
Reply & 1 &like& 8 hours ago
Mike,那样只有模拟重力。大而笨重。但它将会胜任这个工作。那时我们会发现&引力子&,并能够生产重力发生器,而后科幻变成现实:)
Mike Anderson & University of Missouri -Kansas City
Space dwellers of the descovery generationlike the old space opera stories will not ever return to Earth due toadaptation to micro-gravity. Mars and the belt, the Mars books, Red, Green...Using asteroids of metals and ICE directed to Mars to enhance its&TERRA-FORMING&and the Belt miners, the Jovan Moon miners and whoknows the Jupiter gas divers. Read and re-read those and dreamed, now seemslike some far thinking was done and just possible. GO FOR IT, ME NEXT!
Reply & 1 &like& 19 hoursago
探索一代的太空居民像旧式太空歌剧故事中那样由于适应了微重力将永远不会回到地球。火星和小行星带,火星书籍,红的,绿的&&使用小行星的金属和冰指向火星来增强其&地球化&以及小行星带矿工,《约万月亮矿工》和《谁知道木星的气体潜水员》。阅读和重读这些书籍和梦想,现在似乎有些遥远的想法已经完成了,而有的还只是可能。加油,我是下一个!
montylc2001 (signed in using yahoo)
Shades of Larry Niven.......
Reply & 1 &like& 18 hoursago
拉里&尼文的《Shades》&&
Jeremy Cottam & Top Commenter & London, United Kingdom
Like Clarke a visionary setting out clearly thing to come!
Reply &like& 18 hours ago
一个像克拉克一样的梦想家提出的清晰的事物将要到来!
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混乱-25 14:58:43
太空大航海时代即将拉开序幕。
这是回旋者级还是霍克级?
中华星系共和国
当人类能纵横宇宙时,就是迷茫之时,再也找不到未来的憧憬了。就像上帝在人类眼里失去了神秘一样。
3-01-25 10:49:41
星际争霸即将开始,敬请期待。。。
把资本主义的魔爪伸向宇宙了吗
戈尔什科夫
我不认为这种技术应该民企来做,航天高技术高风险,容易垄断,技术不是一家两家几年就能掌握的,就连美国的所谓私营航天还不是nasa在后面给人给技术,这个与石油一样,以后商业化了,就是暴利,很容易垄断,真的不如国家控制}

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